". . . let me tell you who I fight, Mic, and this is not going to surprise you one bit. Eisenhower warned us about the 'military-industrial complex.' Well, I will tell you this. At every level of government - federal, state, local - mental health funding has exploded. There is a mental health industrial complex of people that control large amounts of money, large amounts of jobs. Right. And somebody like me walks in and says, 'Hey, this . . .' and they look at me and they're like, 'Who are you? You don't have an advanced degree.' And then somebody says, 'Well, you should listen to him because he's worked with two organizations that he can show you. One had 6 suicides in 5 months. And then after he started speaking, they had 1 in the next eleven and a half months (that one had 18,000 Marines and Sailors). Then he went to the next one, right? The next one is 15,000. They go from 6 suicides in 2020 to 2 suicides in 2021 to 14 months with no suicide. So Mac's not saying it's all him. These other programs help too, but he is a voice from inside the tribe, right? . . ."
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"Battling the Mental Health Industrial Complex"
Jul 05, 2025
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